[Podcast] Chatty AF 11: Shirobako watchalong – episodes 7-12

This week we’re continuing our new watchalong series with special guest Miles, started last week with the first six episodes of Shirobako. This episode digs deep into the nature of careers and seniority for women in particular, let us know your thoughts in the comments!

Shirobako Watchalong – episodes 7-12

0:00 Intro
1:28 Hopes from last episodes
5:49 Enjoyment of the series
10:08 Ema’s advancement vs Segawa’s seniority and child rearing in modern Japan
15:38 Aoi’s advancement vs male counterparts and gendered social spaces
24:10 No panacea for workplace struggles
25:24 Uncertainty about the future
27:01 Lifetime employment culture Mii vs Kaori
30:57 Honda the baker
33:06 Kaori’s future
39:04 Tarou still sucks
41:03 The new candidates
45:15 Next six episodes
52:95 Miles surprises
1:02:23 Outro

Recorded Saturday 3rd June 2017

Music: Open Those Bright Eyes by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License


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  • ImaniToo

    Addressing the issue of women animators and career advancement, The Sakuga Blog posted about KyoAni putting in a programme created with working mothers in mind. I’m sure it’s not a coincidence that one of the studio’s co-founder is a woman. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2017/06/16/this-week-in-anime-business-3/

    In relation to discrimination against women of a “certain age” and career options, I have friends or friends of friends who have those issues brought up to their face. In post-graduate medical programmes especially, their superiors will ask about their “reproductive aspirations”, or give unsolicited advice to newly engaged women on when they should or not have children. It’s worse if you’re in the surgical programmes as those are still seen as the men’s domain. One friend is in the early stages of a somewhat troublesome pregnancy, yet she pushed herself until her doc advised her to take leave because she (and others like her) are esp sensitive to the (mostly male) colleague’s complaints about breaks taken due to morning sickness and such.

    We’ve come a long way but we’ve got a waaays to go still.

  • ML Tyler

    One thing thatP.A. Works shows do very well, Shirobako included, is confront ageism. Ir may be something all you young whippersappers may not have particularly noticed, but Shirobako, and Sakura Quest, and Eccentric Family, and Hanesaku Iroha, etc. all do is include older characters who are not jokes, have something to contribute, and have the breath of life. they are not cardboard cutouts, they are living breathing characters. This is an encouraging thing for an anime fan pushing 60 to see.

    • This is an excellent point. I certainly noticed, but was more focused on the lack of an older female equivalent to the characters like Sugie that we saw. However, it is definitely worth noting that even characters like Sugie are rare, thank you for the reminder!