[Podcast] Chatty AF 20: Summer 2017 anime mid-season check-in

Dee, Vrai, and Peter check in with the top 17 anime of our Summer 2017 premiere rankings. Listen to find out our biggest surprises, disappointments, and guilty pleasures of the season!

SPOILERS: For most of the shows named

00:00 Intro
01:40 #17 Classroom of the Elite
06:16 #16 Welcome to the Ballroom
10:19 #15 Convenience Store Boys (but not really)
10:45 #14 Knight’s & Magic
15:02 #13 Altair: A Record of Battles (also not really)
15:27 #12 Vatican Miracle Examiners
19:03 #11 Gamers!
24:09 #10 Battle Girl High School (not really though)
24:31 #9 Dive! (apologies)
25:09 #8 Restaurant to Another World
26:39 #7 Elegant Yokai Apartment Life
28:59 #6 The Reflection
33:53 #5 18if
39:28 #4 Clean Freak! Aoyama-kun
43:58 #3 Action Heroine Cheer Fruits (so sorry)
45:24 #2 Made in Abyss
51:46 #1 Princess Principal
59:51 Outro


Recorded Sunday 13th August 2017

Music: Open Those Bright Eyes by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License


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  • Rens

    I kept clicking the Reviews button on the left, when the reviews of the first episodes were mentioned. I keep forgetting only the fall 2016 reviews are linked there.

  • The XenoChrist

    I’m really baffled by the praise heaped on Princess Principal, as I couldn’t make past episode 1. Outside of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress, I’ve never been a fan of Ichiro Okouchi and Princess Principal seems to be as bad in the exact same ways as his previous works. At least Valvrave the Liberator so absurd it made for a fun watch regardless. I could recommend Valvrave as a “so bad it’s good” title; something that you could watch with friends and riff on. PrinPri, on the other hand, is far too drab and self serious for that kind of endorsement.

    I’m disappointed that Tsuredure Children didn’t make it on anyone’s list, as it’s one of my favorites of this season. It’s a really sweet, charming romcom short series that I’d suggest as a feminist recommendation. I’d certainly put it higher than PrinPri or any of the other titles discussed on this podcast.

    • Dawnstorm

      Doesn’t Tsurezure Children fall under the no-shorts rule? I agree it’s one of the best shows this season (my second favourite, personally, after Abyss).

      • Dee

        Yep, it’s a short. Though I would like to check it out at least – I’ve heard lots of good things. Maybe if I finish it on time I could work a quick recommendation into the end-of-season podcast.

      • The XenoChrist

        I was not aware there was a no-shorts rule, though that does explain a lot. So my bad for not knowing that…

    • Dee

      If the main reason you dropped PrinPri was because it felt drab and self-serious, I’d recommend giving it a second chance. Each episode tells a different self-contained story and carries its own unique tone, so some episodes are grimmer or more emotional than others, but there are also a bunch of lighter episodes, too, be they entertaining spy capers or cheerful, empowering stories of women helping each other.

      No guarantees you’ll like it, of course – could be the style just isn’t to your taste – but the series definitely has a sense of humor and a sense of fun, so you might warm up to it after all.

    • I was also unsure I’d like it from the first episode. This is definitely a show where the 3 episode rule should apply.

      And when it’s done, I think I’m primarily going to recommend people watch the episode sin Chronological order not the order they aired. Which would mean started with episodes 2 and 3.

  • Belaam

    I am really enjoying Princess Principal, but I do wish they’d give us more of the big picture political stuff going on (and yes, I may be in the minority here). But I love so many things they’ve done. The bit where one of them is listening to multiple open lines at once to gather information was extremely cool (As a SigInt veteran, I may be biased).

    But the big picture premise of the spy trying to manipulate her agency to get her friend(?) in power by convincing them that the friend is the one behind the plan was fantastic. As stated, I’d like to see more on how they are going about that beyond “Duke of Normandy = bad”. But over all completely loving it.

    Abyss is a little more of a problematic. Not just the constant excuses for pre-pubescent nudity, but the common thread that children are punished by stripping them nude and hanging them from the ceiling in rope bondage. Several characters have cited this as being a common thing in this world and there was even a brief shot of it. These elements are just a huge intrusion on my enjoyment of the story.

    • Principal Principal is a show that would be better served by a 26 episode season. Like have the first half by self contained episode stories, then focus on the main storyline more in the latter half.